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Old Oct 27, 17, 7:49 am #16
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using credit card to purchase saver pass problem

I was trying to purchase a saver 1st class day card for Nov. 25 @49sFR.
Initially I tried using a MasterCard Credit Card, I got the message "authorization was rejected". I called my CC help number, the charge NEVER reached them; I tried a VISA CC, same error. BUT, my AMEX card worked.
SBB uses DATATRANS LTD. as their processing agent, there must be some issue with MasterCard and VISA CCs.
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Old Oct 31, 17, 8:14 am #17

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The problem is with US-issued Visa and Mastercard, as these generally don't have sufficient security. SBB requires a second level of security for on-line sales, such as Verified by Visa or Mastercard Secure Code. Unfortunately very few US card issuers offer such cards.
You'll have no problem using US-based cards if you're present for the sale with the card, but may have difficulty with on-line purchases.
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Old Oct 31, 17, 4:41 pm #18
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Yesterday, I found about this issue on the SBB "community" forum.
Apparently American Express cards issued by AMEX DO have the proper security. [American Express Cards issued through a US Bank DO NOT work either.]
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Old Nov 2, 17, 11:15 am #19

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A warning that the Spartageskarte are only valid with an ID. Perhaps that will be obvious to some to avoid resell, but it wasn't to me as the usual Tageskarte only require a stamp on the day of travel and the Halbtax card. My friend narrowly avoided being fined last weekend...

On a positive note, as they also give 50% off mountain railways, total saving for a day trip in a group of 3 to Zermatt last weekend, only booked the day before, was about 500Fr (I took one person on the Duotagestkarte for a surcharge of 20Fr compared to the single, 106Fr Spartageskarte vs. 250Fr for a normal ticket, and a 50Fr saving each on the journey up to the Glacier Paradise)!
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Old Nov 7, 17, 5:11 am #20
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A warning that the Spartageskarte are only valid with an ID. Perhaps that will be obvious to some to avoid resell, but it wasn't to me as the usual Tageskarte only require a stamp on the day of travel and the Halbtax card. My friend narrowly avoided being fined last weekend...

On a positive note, as they also give 50% off mountain railways, total saving for a day trip in a group of 3 to Zermatt last weekend, only booked the day before, was about 500Fr (I took one person on the Duotagestkarte for a surcharge of 20Fr compared to the single, 106Fr Spartageskarte vs. 250Fr for a normal ticket, and a 50Fr saving each on the journey up to the Glacier Paradise)!
If you have a 1/2 fare card on your SwissPass (Card), which has your picture and Date of Birth listed, shouldn't that be an acceptable form of ID?
PS: I (also) always have my US Passport when I ride trains in Switz.

Zermatt is "included" under GA area, so is free with a day card. [Over the past several years, many mountain routes are now free, two of my favorites are Rocher-de-Naye and Rigi.]
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Old Nov 7, 17, 5:19 am #21

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If you have a 1/2 fare card on your SwissPass (Card), which has your picture and Date of Birth listed, shouldn't that be an acceptable form of ID?
PS: I (also) always have my US Passport when I ride trains in Switz.

Zermatt is "included" under GA area, so is free with a day card. [Over the past several years, many mountain routes are now free, two of my favorites are Rocher-de-Naye and Rigi.]
Friend doesn't have a Halbtax, and didn't have passport. Halbtax is of course sufficient.

Unfortunately, Zermatt is most definitely not included in the GA area (otherwise I could ski for free rather than 90Fr a day ). There is a 50% discount for GA (and therefore day tickets).
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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:04 am #22
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Friend doesn't have a Halbtax, and didn't have passport. Halbtax is of course sufficient.

Unfortunately, Zermatt is most definitely not included in the GA area (otherwise I could ski for free rather than 90Fr a day ). There is a 50% discount for GA (and therefore day tickets).
I've gone to Zermatt (from Visp) many times using a (1st class) day card; I just checked the GA map, the route to Zermatt is a solid line.

Also at https://glacierexpress.ch/en/tra...ing/discounts/ the entire Glacier Express route is noted as being FREE for GA (though one would have to pay a 5SFR reservation supplement).

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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:56 am #23

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I've gone to Zermatt (from Visp) many times using a (1st class) day card; I just checked the GA map, the route to Zermatt is a solid line.

Also at https://glacierexpress.ch/en/tra...ing/discounts/ the entire Glacier Express route is noted as being FREE for GA (though one would have to pay a 5SFR reservation supplement).
We're talking at cross purposes. I referred to the mountain railways from Zermatt to Gornergrat and the Glacier Paradise. Of course the train line to Zermatt is included; it is populated. Cable cars and sightseeing railways are deemed "leisure" and often privately run, so are rarely included in the GA, though 50% discounts often apply.
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