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Old Nov 7, 17, 6:20 am #1
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BA F LHR-USA // 2000 to 2200 GBP RT

- Seems to work only on direct BA metal flight (i.e no connection possible / 2 segments for the entire trip)
- from LHR only
- OJ possible
- January 2018 and later

Sorry if it was already discussed
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Old Nov 7, 17, 6:27 am #2
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Why I can't find my fare on EF, ?
Went to the payment page on BA.com
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Old Nov 7, 17, 6:28 am #3

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Thanks for posting. Fare rules are pretty restricted but it does seem you can get very limited connections in the US and for some reason they book into Y (!). You are also permitted to have transfers within Europe.

Only permitted on certain days between 4 Jan and 8 Feb, 60 day advance purchase requirement, and must be booked by 14th Nov

(Much less of a deal) - J starts at 1800.

Code:
British Airways (BA) AQX6C1S4 LON to NYC
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
 OUTBOUND -
 PERMITTED TUE/WED/THU/FRI/SAT ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC
 SECTOR.
 INBOUND -
 PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/SAT/SUN ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC
 SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
 PERMITTED 04JAN THROUGH 08FEB.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
 RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 60 DAYS
 BEFORE DEPARTURE.
 TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
 RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
 WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
 NOTE -
 DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
 BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT
 REMARK.
 THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
 STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
 2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
 DIRECTION.
 AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN
 EACH DIRECTION
 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN
 EACH DIRECTION
 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
 DIRECTION
 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH
 DIRECTION
 2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/
 CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
 FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
 EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
 COMPONENT.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 14NOV 17 AND MUST BE
 ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 8:43 am #4

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I assume it is not related at all, but I was looking at flights to MCT just now and saw F flights around 2,950 with CW pricing at 3,400+
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Old Nov 7, 17, 8:58 am #5
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Thanks for posting. Fare rules are pretty restricted but it does seem you can get very limited connections in the US and for some reason they book into Y (!). You are also permitted to have transfers within Europe.

Only permitted on certain days between 4 Jan and 8 Feb, 60 day advance purchase requirement, and must be booked by 14th Nov

(Much less of a deal) - J starts at 1800.
Thank you for the info.
So Y miles / avios / points only (
Are you sure of the fare code ? (maybe one day I'll be able to find fares...)

Seems to be fully refundableat at no cost (change at GBP 350 + fare)
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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:18 am #6

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Can currently see INV-JFK for 1800 in F throughout 2018 which seems pretty good.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:34 am #7

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Thank you for the info.
So Y miles / avios / points only (
Are you sure of the fare code ? (maybe one day I'll be able to find fares...)

Seems to be fully refundableat at no cost (change at GBP 350 + fare)
Let me correct myself - it's Y on flights operated by TRANS STATES AS AMERICAN EAGLE FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES. Other domestics book into J and you can force a domestic on most routes but it pushes the price up slightly e.g. LHR - NYC via WAS costs an extra 19 return.

The fare code is correct, use ITA Matrix to locate the fare and the rules and fare basis are listed there. Also your info is incorrect, refunds are not free, they cost 150 and you will get the full amount (minus 150) as long as both the outbound and return leg are booked under AQX6C1S4. Extract

Code:
Category 16: Penalties
 CANCELLATIONS
 BEFORE DEPARTURE
 CHARGE GBP 150.00.
 NOTE -
 BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY CHARGES APPLY PER
 FARE COMPONENT TO ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS
 WITHOUT A SEAT ARE NOT CHARGED THE FEE.
 ----------------------------------------------
 WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
 TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
 ----------------------------------------------
 IN CASE OF ANY NO SHOW WITHIN THE FARE COMPONENT
 THIS FARE COMPONENT BECOMES NON REFUNDABLE.
 -----------------------------------------------
 REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
 -------------------------------------------------
 WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
 REFUNDABLE FARES
 1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
 COMPONENT IS REFUNDED
 2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
 COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
 3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
 CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS
 ----------------------------------------------
 REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
 THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
 IMPOSED CHARGES ARE REFUNDABLE.
 ------------------------------------------------
 ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
 REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
 -----------------------------------------------
 TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
 AFTER DEPARTURE
 TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:37 am #8
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I assume it is not related at all, but I was looking at flights to MCT just now and saw F flights around 2,950 with CW pricing at 3,400+
Because J is better than F

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Old Nov 7, 17, 10:14 am #9
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Let me correct myself - it's Y on flights operated by TRANS STATES AS AMERICAN EAGLE FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES. Other domestics book into J and you can force a domestic on most routes but it pushes the price up slightly e.g. LHR - NYC via WAS costs an extra 19 return.

The fare code is correct, use ITA Matrix to locate the fare and the rules and fare basis are listed there. Also your info is incorrect, refunds are not free, they cost 150 and you will get the full amount (minus 150) as long as both the outbound and return leg are booked under AQX6C1S4. Extract
Thank you for the info
Could be that TRANS STATES AS AMERICAN EAGLE FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES is an all economy flight with no premium cabin

GBP 150 is a reasonable fees
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Old Nov 7, 17, 1:08 pm #10
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Even though it's BA, $2,981 for roundtrip First LHR-LAX is tempting.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 1:10 pm #11

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Even though it's BA, $2,981 for roundtrip First LHR-LAX is tempting.
As they say...
BA First, it's one of the best Business Class products in the sky...
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Old Nov 7, 17, 2:28 pm #12

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Also your info is incorrect, refunds are not free, they cost 150 and you will get the full amount (minus 150) as long as both the outbound and return leg are booked under AQX6C1S4.
Nope, you would get the full amount minus 300. BA refund costs are "PER FARE COMPONENT", and for a return you will have two fare components, one in each direction, and the refund fee is 150 each for this particular fare as you have identified.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 3:43 pm #13
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As they say...
BA First, it's one of the best Business Class products in the sky...
Yup. Although I just booked LHR-LAX with the 789 both ways so it's not as bad as BA's garbage 744 cabin.
For sure it's not AF (or even close) but pretty hard to beat the price especially using Amex Pay With Points and crediting the flights to Alaska at 550%.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 8:13 pm #14

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Yup. Although I just booked LHR-LAX with the 789 both ways so it's not as bad as BA's garbage 744 cabin.
For sure it's not AF (or even close) but pretty hard to beat the price especially using Amex Pay With Points and crediting the flights to Alaska at 550%.
newly matched As 75k, i understand BA First will credit to AS at 550% RDM, how about EQM, 300%? Thanks
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Old Nov 7, 17, 9:42 pm #15

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GF shows HNL a bit more, not sure if it is bookable though.
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