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Old Oct 11, 17, 12:02 pm #211

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Amex has another 30% bonus to transfer to Virgin Atlantic... for 93k MR you now can go New York - Tokyo in ANA first Class
if you can find available stave and it will not get easier I guess
I think the most important point will be the if you can find availability part. I was looking at mid to late September to fly on ANA site, and there isn't even any availability, so I would think it would be even more difficult to find any availability via one of its partners like virgin atlantic.
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Old Oct 11, 17, 4:08 pm #212

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If you look on United for availability they do not even go past Mid September
wasnít ANA releasing 330 days before? So check every day as they should be released soon
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Old Oct 11, 17, 8:26 pm #213

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so if I booked YVR-NRT-PVG now, it will be consider 2 trip 90k for YVR-NRT+45k for NRT-PVG right?

Thanks!
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Old Oct 13, 17, 12:28 pm #214

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So YVR-OKA and return from HND-YVR is possible and will be same miles as RT trip, right? then I need cash buy a OKA-HND ticket to get a stop over in Tokyo?

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I believe open jaw is possible. I spoke with a VS agent a couple of days ago to confirm required mileage for the redemption I'm looking into and I asked about open jaw, he confirmed that it's definitely possible and that required mileage will be adjusted accordingly.
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Old Oct 13, 17, 2:54 pm #215

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So YVR-OKA and return from HND-YVR is possible and will be same miles as RT trip, right? then I need cash buy a OKA-HND ticket to get a stop over in Tokyo?
Pretty sure that should all be fine.

Good luck!
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Old Oct 13, 17, 6:45 pm #216

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I just booked a NH redemption today on VS Flying Club (2 people F ORD to NRT). I used United to find availability (plenty of availability in and out of ORD for late August early September 2017). Note that VS only allows bookings 330 days out but ANA goes to 355.

I called the US call center, the agent immediately found the availability, confirmed the number of points, offered a 48 hold, and gave me a PNR. I then transferred 185,000 points to VS from Amex while the agent was on the phone. Unfortunately, the points didn't transfer. I called Amex, they reissued the transfer and it went through. I called VS back and completed the booking. took under 30 minutes in total and I got ~23 cents per point in value.
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Old Oct 13, 17, 10:16 pm #217

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So YVR-OKA and return from HND-YVR is possible and will be same miles as RT trip, right? then I need cash buy a OKA-HND ticket to get a stop over in Tokyo?
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Pretty sure that should all be fine.

Good luck!
i am fairly certain YVR-OKA will be charged as YVR-TYO + TYO-OKA

to quote the website:
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If a journey requires a connecting flight or stopover to reach the destination, miles are charged for each sector.
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Old Oct 14, 17, 3:37 am #218

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I just booked a NH redemption today on VS Flying Club (2 people F ORD to NRT). I used United to find availability (plenty of availability in and out of ORD for late August early September 2017). Note that VS only allows bookings 330 days out but ANA goes to 355.

I called the US call center, the agent immediately found the availability, confirmed the number of points, offered a 48 hold, and gave me a PNR. I then transferred 185,000 points to VS from Amex while the agent was on the phone. Unfortunately, the points didn't transfer. I called Amex, they reissued the transfer and it went through. I called VS back and completed the booking. took under 30 minutes in total and I got ~23 cents per point in value.
Well done! Did you benefit from not having to pay any fuel surcharges as well?
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Old Oct 16, 17, 10:59 am #219

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Well done! Did you benefit from not having to pay any fuel surcharges as well?
I think so. I was charged ~$166 for the two tickets, which I assume are government taxes and fees. That matches the $87.67 of fees on IATA Matrix for 1 ticket. It's showing a total fare of $23,761.76 for 1 ticket, so I think this is a pretty amazing deal; probably the best deal I will get on a cents per point basis.
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Old Oct 30, 17, 11:26 pm #220

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Can Virgin Atlantic agent see the same ANA award availibiity showing on UA and ANA?

Hi,

Trying to book a first class seat from LAX to NRT and NRT to LAX. Both ANA and UA show one first class seat available and one business class seat available for LAX and NRT and two first class seats available from NRT to LAX. But Virgin Atlantic agent said there are no first class seats and business class seats available at all for both trip on the date I want.

Do I just need to HUAC or is it that VA agents have limited ability to see all the available seats? When I call, do I need to ask to be transfer to anywhere else? like a partner award desk?

Thanks
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Old Oct 31, 17, 6:28 am #221

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They can normally see Saver availability on UA
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Old Nov 1, 17, 9:49 am #222

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Hi,

Trying to book a first class seat from LAX to NRT and NRT to LAX. Both ANA and UA show one first class seat available and one business class seat available for LAX and NRT and two first class seats available from NRT to LAX. But Virgin Atlantic agent said there are no first class seats and business class seats available at all for both trip on the date I want.

Do I just need to HUAC or is it that VA agents have limited ability to see all the available seats? When I call, do I need to ask to be transfer to anywhere else? like a partner award desk?

Thanks
As blitzen said, they should be able to see saver award seats that show up on the UA search tool. Standard award seats arenít bookable via VA.
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Old Nov 7, 17, 5:04 am #223

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Apologies if this is mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but has anyone had any experience of upgrading an NH economy redemption after booking, to J or F?
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Old Nov 8, 17, 12:37 pm #224

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Since you have to book RT award tickets, to get a better chance at getting specific dates you want, can I book 330 days out a RT flight with the outbound flight I want, and then wait a couple weeks for that actual return leg I want and change the return flight to that? It should be a $50 fee if I am not mistaken which may be worth it if I am trying to get specific dates?
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Old Yesterday, 11:30 am #225

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Since you have to book RT award tickets, to get a better chance at getting specific dates you want, can I book 330 days out a RT flight with the outbound flight I want, and then wait a couple weeks for that actual return leg I want and change the return flight to that? It should be a $50 fee if I am not mistaken which may be worth it if I am trying to get specific dates?
I don't see why not?

Another question -

I'm hoping to book our outbound flight from IAD - NRT in a week or 2 for early October 2018, then we wish to return NRT/HND - JFK and spend a couple of nights in the city. At the moment I'm using September 2018 to gauge availability for these flights, and there seems to be decent availability both ways in F or J. However, if I run the multi-city option on united.com, availability becomes a lot more sparse. In other words, if I run an IAD-NRT return or a JFK-NRT/HND return for September 2018, there's pretty decent availability both ways, but when I run it as multi-city - loads of available seats disappear. Is this is a quirk of the united.com website, or will I find that VA agents have a lot less access to seats when trying to buy a multi city ticket?
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